I love this! I NEVER EVER thought Spike went into this with any attempted rape in mind. You perfectly summed up - and in each scene they had where it led to sex - just how messed up it was. The look on his face was just one (as you have a clip above showing) of just horror at what he'd almost done.
I even took the thread (a very long time ago) regarding Dawn (in a story of mine) and had her feeling guilty for her part in it, but that's neither here nor there.
Regarding one thing that someone else brought up over on F'bk, and that I'd already thought of, was in that scene with Spike in the basement where he's chained up (after he attacks Andrew when the First was playing him) where he tells Buffy, 'Know what I did to girls Dawn's age,' etc.
I know it's cannon, but to me, that scene never, ever, ever rang as true. There was nothing revealed about Spike for 7 years, that would've led the audience to believe that besides murder and mayhem, that he would revel in rape. Now, Angelus, we know took pleasure in that.
To my way of thinking, he was just telling (goading) Buffy in order to get her to kill him to protect her, Dawn, and her friends/potentials, from him.
I mean, even the tone he says it in is so un-Spike-like. The hero, or anti-hero in him would have her end his life rather than risk hers.
That, or just sloppy over-the-top writing, trying to justify the scene.
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Date: 12/10/2018 05:09 pm (UTC)I even took the thread (a very long time ago) regarding Dawn (in a story of mine) and had her feeling guilty for her part in it, but that's neither here nor there.
Regarding one thing that someone else brought up over on F'bk, and that I'd already thought of, was in that scene with Spike in the basement where he's chained up (after he attacks Andrew when the First was playing him) where he tells Buffy, 'Know what I did to girls Dawn's age,' etc.
I know it's cannon, but to me, that scene never, ever, ever rang as true. There was nothing revealed about Spike for 7 years, that would've led the audience to believe that besides murder and mayhem, that he would revel in rape. Now, Angelus, we know took pleasure in that.
To my way of thinking, he was just telling (goading) Buffy in order to get her to kill him to protect her, Dawn, and her friends/potentials, from him.
I mean, even the tone he says it in is so un-Spike-like. The hero, or anti-hero in him would have her end his life rather than risk hers.
That, or just sloppy over-the-top writing, trying to justify the scene.